{"id":83749,"date":"2015-10-10T23:51:25","date_gmt":"2015-10-11T03:51:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bibula.com\/?p=83749"},"modified":"2015-10-10T23:51:25","modified_gmt":"2015-10-11T03:51:25","slug":"abp-gadecki-poslusznie-usuwa-wczesniej-opublikowane-wpisy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bibula.com\/?p=83749","title":{"rendered":"Abp G\u0105decki pos\u0142usznie usuwa wcze\u015bniej opublikowane wpisy&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"post-header-line-1\">&#8230;zawieraj\u0105ce notatki z prac grup synodalnych. Kto to widzia\u0142, aby obrady synodu by\u0142y jawne&#8230; Sekretariat zabroni\u0142 i tupn\u0105\u0142 nog\u0105, to abp. G\u0105decki <i>ruki pa szwam<\/i> i usuwa.<br \/><p><b>Tu zadzia\u0142a\u0142o Prawo Achima:<\/b><br \/> <br \/> <a href=\"http:\/\/abpgadecki.pl\/interventions-de-trois-minutes-des-peres-synodaux-deuxieme-assemblee-generale-10052015\/\">http:\/\/abpgadecki.pl\/interventions-de-trois-minutes-des-peres-synodaux-deuxieme-assemblee-generale-10052015\/<\/a><br \/> <br \/> <b>by\u0142o:<\/b><\/p><p><a href=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-5ohqjwx-wgE\/VhgEFixBTAI\/AAAAAAAAKQM\/Zri3ELaCHH8\/s1600\/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2015-10-09%2B20%253A13%253A56.png\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-5ohqjwx-wgE\/VhgEFixBTAI\/AAAAAAAAKQM\/Zri3ELaCHH8\/s640\/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2015-10-09%2B20%253A13%253A56.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"601\" height=\"338\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p><p><br \/> <br \/> <b>i ni ma<\/b><\/p><p><a href=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-b-JZEAOdBUg\/VhgEKFs76ZI\/AAAAAAAAKQU\/IsXTcUFzqrE\/s1600\/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2015-10-09%2B20%253A14%253A19.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-b-JZEAOdBUg\/VhgEKFs76ZI\/AAAAAAAAKQU\/IsXTcUFzqrE\/s640\/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2015-10-09%2B20%253A14%253A19.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"601\" height=\"338\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p><p><br \/> <br \/> Na nieszcz\u0119\u015bcie dla synodalnego GejStaPo &#8211; jest Gugiel. a Gugiel <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/webcache.googleusercontent.com\/search?q=cache:39mZxuD9nvoJ:abpgadecki.pl\/interventions-de-trois-minutes-des-peres-synodaux-deuxieme-assemblee-generale-10052015\/+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=pl&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=pl\">wszystko pami\u0119ta<\/a><\/span>. Aby ocali\u0107 od zapomnienia wpis abpa G\u0105deckiego &#8211; wklejamy go ku pami\u0119ci poni\u017cej:<\/p><blockquote><p>Interventions de trois minutes des Peres Synodaux &#8211; Deuxi\u00c3\u00a8me Assembl\u00c3\u00a9e g\u00c3\u00a9n\u00c3\u00a9rale (10\/05\/2015)<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Victor Manuel Fern\u00c3\u00a0ndez<\/strong> (archev\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Argentine), recteur de l\u2019Universit\u00c3\u00a9 catholique argentine, nomm\u00c3\u00a9 membre du comit\u00c3\u00a9 de r\u00c3\u00a9daction de la <em>Relation finale du Synode<\/em>. &#8211; S. Thomas d\u2019Aquin enseigne que l\u2019amour se d\u00c3\u00a9veloppe. Nous attendons le soutien des \u00c3\u00a9poux dans le d\u00c3\u00a9veloppement de l\u2019amour. La doctrine de la mis\u00c3\u00a9ricorde doit \u00c3\u00aatre suivie par la charit\u00c3\u00a9 pastorale.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Joseph Edward Kurtz<\/strong> (archev\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; USA), pr\u00c3\u00a9sident de la Conf\u00c3\u00a9rence \u00c3\u00a9piscopale des Etats-Unis. &#8211; Il faut une formation pour pr\u00c3\u00a9parer la famille \u00c3\u00a0 prendre part dans la mission de l\u2019\u00c3\u2030glise. Nous devons \u00c3\u00a9duquer les couples \u00c3\u00a0 la mission. Nous devons imiter le Christ qui a r\u00c3\u00a9uni autour de lui ses disciples, les a form\u00c3\u00a9s et ensuite envoy\u00c3\u00a9s \u00ab\u00a0deux par deux\u00a0\u00bb au monde. Il a fait sien le souci des jeunes marri\u00c3\u00a9s (Cana), et il a partag\u00c3\u00a9 la vie de ses amis\u00a0: Marie, Marthe et Lazare. Dans les <em>Actes des ap\u00c3\u00b4tres<\/em> mention est d\u00c3\u00a9j\u00c3\u00a0 faites de couples marri\u00c3\u00a9s engag\u00c3\u00a9s dans l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9vang\u00c3\u00a9lisation.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Elio Sgreccia<\/strong> (Italie), pr\u00c3\u00a9sident \u00c3\u00a9m\u00c3\u00a9rite de l\u2019Acad\u00c3\u00a9mie pontificale pour la vie. &#8211; Il est n\u00c3\u00a9cessaire cr\u00c3\u00a9er un climat d\u2019accueil et une pastorale de continuit\u00c3\u00a9. Il faut accompagner les \u00c3\u00a9poux et la famille tout au long de sa vie.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Nicolas Djomo Lola <\/strong>(\u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Congo). &#8211; L\u2019extr\u00c3\u00aame pauvret\u00c3\u00a9 a un effet n\u00c3\u00a9gatif sur le statut des familles. Pour y rem\u00c3\u00a9dier, il faut de la solidarit\u00c3\u00a9 entre les familles, une formation \u00c3\u00a0 la vie sociale dans la logique du bien commun et de distribution internationale, l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9volution des structures sociales.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Timothy Michael Dolan<\/strong> (USA), archev\u00c3\u00aaque de New York &#8211; Il faut d\u00c3\u00a9fendre ce que Dieu a r\u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00a9l\u00c3\u00a9 sur le mariage et la famille. Notre t\u00c3\u00a2che est de soutenir la famille en bonne sant\u00c3\u00a9. Certains courants culturels et approches sociologiques, etc., repr\u00c3\u00a9sentent une menace pour la famille. Pour servir la famille, il faut partir de la Parole de Dieu.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Johan Jozef Bonny<\/strong> (Belgique), \u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaque d\u2019Anvers. Il convient de noter des \u00c3\u00a9l\u00c3\u00a9ments positifs dans les unions civiles, pr\u00c3\u00aater attention au \u00ab\u00a0Grain de V\u00c3\u00a9rit\u00c3\u00a9\u00a0\u00bb. Il faut \u00c3\u00a9viter l\u2019exclusion. Laisser une marge de man\u00c5\u201cuvre aux \u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaques locaux. D\u00c3\u00a9velopper une vision de l\u2019\u00c3\u2030glise comme famille &#8211; unit\u00c3\u00a9 dans la diversit\u00c3\u00a9.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Ricardo Ezzati Andrello<\/strong> <strong>SDB<\/strong> (Chili), pr\u00c3\u00a9sident de la Conf\u00c3\u00a9rence \u00c3\u00a9piscopale du Chili. &#8211; La famille \u00c3\u00a9vang\u00c3\u00a9lis\u00c3\u00a9e et \u00c3\u00a9vang\u00c3\u00a9lisatrice. La pastorale devrait \u00c3\u00aatre int\u00c3\u00a9grale et organique. Il faut valoriser beaucoup plus l\u2019amour humain, souligner le lien entre l\u2019amour et le mariage, accompagn\u00c3\u00a9 avec mis\u00c3\u00a9ricorde les couples bless\u00c3\u00a9s.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Jos\u00c3\u00a9 Luis Lacunza Maestroju\u00e1n OAR<\/strong> (Panama), pr\u00c3\u00a9sident de la Conf\u00c3\u00a9rence \u00c3\u00a9piscopale du Panama. Mo\u00c3\u00afse donne le consentement au peuple, il c\u00c3\u00a8de. Aujourd\u2019hui, la \u00ab\u00a0duret\u00c3\u00a9 de c\u00c5\u201cur\u00a0\u00bb s\u2019oppose aux plans de Dieu. Est-ce que Pierre ne pourrait pas \u00c3\u00aatre aussi mis\u00c3\u00a9ricordieux que Mo\u00c3\u00afse\u00a0?<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. G\u00c3\u00a9rald Cyprien Lacroix <\/strong>(Canada), archev\u00c3\u00aaque de Qu\u00c3\u00a9bec. &#8211; Dieu t\u2019aime comme tu es, mais Il ne te laisse pas dans le lieu o\u00c3\u00b9 tu te trouves. Aujourd\u2019hui, ce message devrait jouer un r\u00c3\u00b4le plus important que jamais.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Charles Edward Drennan<\/strong> (\u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Nouvelle-Z\u00c3\u00a9lande). Beaucoup, faisant l\u2019exp\u00c3\u00a9rience du rejet, ont quitt\u00c3\u00a9 l\u2019\u00c3\u2030glise. Changer le langage de la condamnation en un langage de mis\u00c3\u00a9ricorde.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Diarmuid Martin<\/strong> (Irlande), archev\u00c3\u00aaque de Dublin. &#8211; Le mariage est respect\u00c3\u00a9 chez nous, mais dans un r\u00c3\u00a9f\u00c3\u00a9rendum la reconnaissance des unions de m\u00c3\u00aame sexe a \u00c3\u00a9t\u00c3\u00a9 pr\u00c3\u00a9conis\u00c3\u00a9e. La culture de l\u2019antagonisme doit \u00c3\u00aatre \u00c3\u00a9vang\u00c3\u00a9lis\u00c3\u00a9e. Comment pouvons-nous parler de l\u2019indissolubilit\u00c3\u00a9 \u00c3\u00a0 des femmes trahies, et comment parler aux maris qui les ont trahies\u00a0?<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Romulo G. Valles<\/strong> (archev\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Philippines). &#8211; Dans notre pays, 80% de la population est catholique romain, et n\u00c3\u00a9anmoins nous sommes engag\u00c3\u00a9s dans le dialogue interreligieux. Le dialogue est aussi n\u00c3\u00a9cessaire au sein du mariage.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Jan Babjak, SJ<\/strong> (Slovaquie). &#8211; Chez nous, les familles sont semblables \u00c3\u00a0 celles d\u2019ailleurs. J\u00c3\u00a9sus n\u2019a pas promis de nous lib\u00c3\u00a9rer des difficult\u00c3\u00a9s. Il faut donner le vin de l\u2019amour au lieu de l\u2019eau du droit. Seul un vin pur a bon go\u00c3\u00bbt.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. B\u00c3\u00a9ckara Boutros Ra\u00c3\u00af, OMM<\/strong> (Liban), patriarche maronite d\u2019Antioche et pr\u00c3\u00a9sident du Synode de l\u2019\u00c3\u2030glise Maronite. &#8211; Le lien entre le patriarche et les fid\u00c3\u00a8les est essentiel. Notre Synode a besoin du soutien de la Curie romaine.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Antoine Nabil Andari<\/strong> (\u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Liban). &#8211; L\u2019id\u00c3\u00a9ologie entre dans la vie des chr\u00c3\u00a9tiens. Ensuite, nous avons l\u2019\u00ab\u00a0amour libre\u00a0\u00bb, ensuite le plaisir est devient un absolu. Dans le langage la\u00c3\u00afc, nous parlons de l\u2019amour et des droits. Le langage de saint Paul est absent.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr S\u00c3\u00a9rgio Eduardo Castriani, CSSp<\/strong> (archev\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Br\u00c3\u00a9sil). &#8211; Dans notre soci\u00c3\u00a9t\u00c3\u00a9, la violence sous toutes ses formes domine\u00a0; les enfants sont souvent victimes d\u2019abus. L\u2019Amazonie est en voie de disparition. Nous devons promouvoir la dignit\u00c3\u00a9 de la personne humaine. Garder \u00c3\u00a0 l\u2019esprit le document d\u2019Aparecida. Il est n\u00c3\u00a9cessaire d\u2019accompagner pastoralement les couples marri\u00c3\u00a9s et les familles.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. John Atcherley Dew<\/strong> (Nouvelle-Z\u00c3\u00a9lande). Un accompagnement est n\u00c3\u00a9cessaire dans des p\u00c3\u00a9riodes difficiles de crises. Il faut \u00c3\u00aatre l\u2019accompagnateur-ami. Essayer de reconcilier au lieu de condamner.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Henri Coudray, SJ<\/strong> (Tchad). Les \u00c3\u00a9poux ont besoin de s\u2019\u00c3\u00a9couter l\u2019un l\u2019autre et de suivre la dynamique de la mis\u00c3\u00a9ricorde. Il faut \u00c3\u00a9vang\u00c3\u00a9liser avec la tendresse d\u2019une m\u00c3\u00a8re, avoir au c\u00c5\u201cur la tendresse d\u00c3\u00a9licate du Christ lui-m\u00c3\u00aame.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Heiner Koch<\/strong> (Allemagne), archev\u00c3\u00aaque de Berlin. &#8211; Il y a 5% de catholiques dans l\u2019Est de l\u2019Allemagne\u00a0; 50%, d\u2019entre eux ne veulent pas se marier &#8211; ils ont une conception diff\u00c3\u00a9rente du mariage. Malgr\u00c3\u00a9 cela, il faut transmettre la Bonne Nouvelle au sujet des couples marri\u00c3\u00a9s et la famille. Pourquoi l\u2019exclusion des sacrements\u00a0? Beaucoup \u00c3\u00a9l\u00c3\u00a8vent leurs enfants seuls\u00a0; d\u2019autres sont des r\u00c3\u00a9fugi\u00c3\u00a9s. Les mourants re\u00c3\u00a7oivent de l\u2019aide &#8211; il faut l\u2019aide de l\u2019amour pour mourir en famille.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Tarcisius Ngalalekumtwa<\/strong> (\u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Tanzanie). Dans notre soci\u00c3\u00a9t\u00c3\u00a9, l\u2019absence d\u2019enfants est consid\u00c3\u00a9r\u00c3\u00a9e comme une mal\u00c3\u00a9diction. La paternit\u00c3\u00a9 spirituelle aussi est consid\u00c3\u00a9r\u00c3\u00a9e louable. Des familles adoptent donc des enfants, et l\u2019adoption est souvent suivie par la naissance de leurs propres enfants.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Blase J. Cupich<\/strong> (USA), archev\u00c3\u00aaque de Chicago. &#8211; Les \u00c3\u00a9poux traitent souvent la famille comme une unit\u00c3\u00a9 \u00c3\u00a9conomique. Il faut promouvoir l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9glise domestique, la famille ouverte, capable d\u2019int\u00c3\u00a9grer ceux qui sont proches.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Joseph Kallarangatt<\/strong> (Inde). &#8211; Chez nous, les grands-parents jouent un r\u00c3\u00b4le \u00c3\u00a9norme. C\u2019est le capital spirituel, le r\u00c3\u00b4le apostolique. P\u00c3\u00a8res de famille, m\u00c3\u00a8res de famille\u00a0; rites domestiques &#8211; pri\u00c3\u00a8re.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr<\/strong> <strong>Andrews Thazhath<\/strong> (archev\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Inde). &#8211; Les migrants perdent leur relation avec l\u2019\u00c3\u2030glise et se perdent \u00c3\u00a0 l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9tranger. Ils vont \u00c3\u00a0 d\u2019autres communaut\u00c3\u00a9s religieuses. Il faut que l\u2019\u00c3\u2030glise accompagne les migrants. Des congr\u00c3\u00a9gations religieuses avec le charisme pour la mission parmi les familles seraient utiles.<\/p><div class=\"td-modal-image\">\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Giuseppe Bertello<\/strong> (Vatican). &#8211; Un grave probl\u00c3\u00a8me est le travail des mineurs (il s\u2019agit d\u2019une forme de violence contre les enfants) et les enfants-soldats. Ces enfants quittent l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9cole, mais sans leur le travail la famille ne pourrait pas survivre. Il faut cr\u00c3\u00a9er des structures pour garantir aux enfants leur dignit\u00c3\u00a9. La conscience commune de la n\u00c3\u00a9cessit\u00c3\u00a9 d\u2019aide est importante et essentielle.<\/div><p>LIBRE DISCUSSION D\u2019UNE HEURE<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Angelo<\/strong> <strong>Bagnasco<\/strong> (Italie). Le minist\u00c3\u00a8re pastoral pour la famille est n\u00c3\u00a9cessaire. C\u2019est aux pr\u00c3\u00aatres de s\u2019exprimer sur ce sujet. Souvent quelques brebis restent dans la bergerie. Le Synode doit un mot de soutien pour les pr\u00c3\u00aatres et leur travail avec les familles. On devrait se rappeler que les situations difficiles sont un fait courant. Nous devons rendre hommage aux familles qui sont en difficult\u00c3\u00a9 et restent fid\u00c3\u00a8le aux promesses de mariage faites devant Dieu, malgr\u00c3\u00a9 l\u2019adversit\u00c3\u00a9 et les probl\u00c3\u00a8mes.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Patriarche Fouad Twal <\/strong>(J\u00c3\u00a9rusalem), patriarche latin de J\u00c3\u00a9rusalem et pr\u00c3\u00a9sident de la Conf\u00c3\u00a9rence \u00c3\u00a9piscopale de Cracovie des Arabes &#8211; Je remercie pour le <em>Mitis Iuex<\/em>. \u00c3\u20ac parti de 8 d\u00c3\u00a9cembre, pourra-t-il \u00c3\u00aatre encore utilis\u00c3\u00a9 dans des questions ouvertes plus t\u00c3\u00b4t\u00a0?<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Patriarche Ignace Youssif III Younan<\/strong> (Liban). &#8211; Devant nos yeux, la culture et les peuples sont d\u00c3\u00a9truits. Demander le respect de leur identit\u00c3\u00a9 dans les pays o\u00c3\u00b9 ils ont \u00c3\u00a9migr\u00c3\u00a9.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Stanis\u0142aw Ry\u0142ko<\/strong> (Vatican). &#8211; Il est dit que l\u2019Eglise devrait \u00c3\u00aatre comme \u00ab\u00a0un h\u00c3\u00b4pital de guerre\u00a0\u00bb, mais il n\u2019y a pas beaucoup dans cette situation qui veulent \u00c3\u00aatre oblig\u00c3\u00a9s d\u2019aller \u00c3\u00a0 l\u2019h\u00c3\u00b4pital. St. Augustin demande \u00c3\u00a0 ceux qui veulent de l\u2019aide mais ne veulent pas se convertir\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Pourquoi nous cherchez-vous\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb. C\u2019est ainsi que se comportent certains baptis\u00c3\u00a9s qui sont en situation irr\u00c3\u00a9guli\u00c3\u00a8re, mais ne veulent pas recevoir le sacrement de la p\u00c3\u00a9nitence. Ainsi, nous avons non seulement une crise du mariage et de la famille, mais aussi une crise de la foi. 2 Tm 4,2-5 dit\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Proclame la parole, insiste \u00c3\u00a0 temps et \u00c3\u00a0 contretemps, r\u00c3\u00a9fute, menace, exhorte, avec une patience inlassable et le souci d\u2019instruire. Car un temps viendra o\u00c3\u00b9 les hommes ne supporteront plus la saine doctrine, mais au contraire, au gr\u00c3\u00a9 de leurs passions et l\u2019oreille les d\u00c3\u00a9mangeant, ils se donneront des ma\u00c3\u00aetres en quantit\u00c3\u00a9 et d\u00c3\u00a9tourneront l\u2019oreille de la v\u00c3\u00a9rit\u00c3\u00a9 pour se tourner vers les fables. Pour toi, sois prudent en tout, supporte l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9preuve, fais oeuvre de pr\u00c3\u00a9dicateur de l\u2019Evangile, acquitte-toi \u00c3\u00a0 la perfection de ton minist\u00c3\u00a8re\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Reinhard Marx<\/strong> (Allemagne), pr\u00c3\u00a9sident de la Conf\u00c3\u00a9rence \u00c3\u00a9piscopale allemande. Etonn\u00c3\u00a9 par la relation du Card. Erd\u00c5\u2018, il dit qu\u2019il faut un d\u00c3\u00a9bat sur le sacrement du mariage. \u00ab\u00a0Tout ou rien\u00a0\u00bb n\u2019est pas une option. On ne doit pas montrer que les aspects n\u00c3\u00a9gatifs de notre culture, parce que nos gens ne comprennent pas.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Lucas van<\/strong> <strong>Looy, sdb<\/strong> (\u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaque\u00a0; Belgique). Il faut de l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9ducation et la d\u00c3\u00a9couverte de la richesse de la contribution de l\u2019Eglise \u00c3\u00a0 la soci\u00c3\u00a9t\u00c3\u00a9. La famille a besoin du soutien de l\u2019Eglise.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Patriarche Gr\u00c3\u00a9gorie III<\/strong> <strong>Laham,<\/strong> <strong>BS <\/strong>(Syrie), partiarche of Antioche et pr\u00c3\u00a9sident du Synode de l\u2019Eglise grecque-melkite. &#8211; Toujours parler du \u00ab\u00a0sacrement du mariage\u00a0\u00bb plut\u00c3\u00b4t que de \u00ab\u00a0mariage\u00a0\u00bb. Montrer la beaut\u00c3\u00a9 spirituelle du mariage. Pour aider les \u00c3\u00a9poux, il faut leur montrer la vision spirituelle, positive et immuable du mariage. Souvent, nous ne sommes pas unis autour de cette vision positive du mariage et de la famille. J\u00c3\u00a9sus corrige Mo\u00c3\u00afse. L\u2019instabilit\u00c3\u00a9 du mariage est contraire \u00c3\u00a0 sa nature.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Fernando Filoni<\/strong> (Vatican). &#8211; La situation actuelle dans les pays o\u00c3\u00b9 la pers\u00c3\u00a9cution des chr\u00c3\u00a9tiens continue\u00a0: des filles sont enlev\u00c3\u00a9es et viol\u00c3\u00a9es\u00a0; autres &#8211; mineures &#8211; subissent des pressions dans le mariage ou sont forc\u00c3\u00a9es \u00c3\u00a0 se prostituer. Il faut prendre soin de leur r\u00c3\u00a9insertion dans les communaut\u00c3\u00a9s paroissiales.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Tadeusz Kondrusiewicz<\/strong> (B\u00c3\u00a9larus), pr\u00c3\u00a9sident de la Conf\u00c3\u00a9rence \u00c3\u00a9piscopale du B\u00c3\u00a9larus. &#8211; De quoi est-ce que nous traitons ici\u00a0? Nous devons parler de la famille et non pas d\u2019autres affaires. Si nous acceptons de donner les sacrements aux divorc\u00c3\u00a9s vivant dans de nouveaux rapports, nous sommes en faveur du divorce.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Pio Vito Pinto<\/strong> (Vatican). Doyen du Tribunal de la Rote romaine. &#8211; Les cas ant\u00c3\u00a9rieurs au 8 octobre 2015 ne sont pas soumis \u00c3\u00a0 <em>Mitis Iudex Dominus Iesus<\/em>. S\u2019il reste des jugements pendants apr\u00c3\u00a8s le 8 octobre, ils y seront soumis. Le jour du 8 octobre marquera le d\u00c3\u00a9but de la p\u00c3\u00a9riode de pr\u00c3\u00a9paration. L\u2019\u00c3\u00a9v\u00c3\u00aaque doit \u00c3\u00aatre conscient de l\u2019\u00c3\u00a9norme responsabilit\u00c3\u00a9 qu\u2019il porte dans le cadre de ces processus.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Patriarche Louis Rapha\u00c3\u00abl I<\/strong> <strong>Sako<\/strong> (Irak), patriarche chald\u00c3\u00a9en de Babylone et pr\u00c3\u00a9sident du Synode de l\u2019\u00c3\u2030glise chald\u00c3\u00a9enne. &#8211; En Irak, nous ne comprenons pas pleinement les r\u00c3\u00a9fugi\u00c3\u00a9s. Nous avons besoin de soutien afin qu\u2019ils ne soient pas oblig\u00c3\u00a9s de fuir leur patrie.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Andr\u00c3\u00a9<\/strong> <strong>Vingt-Trois<\/strong> (France). Nous sommes prisonniers de la relation entre la vie personnelle et sociale. Nous ne trouvons pas de formule logique pour surmonter la crise. Il reste seulement \u00c3\u00a0 reconna\u00c3\u00aetre que nous aussi, nous faisons partie de cette confusion qui ne peut \u00c3\u00aatre r\u00c3\u00a9solue sans le sentiment d\u2019humilit\u00c3\u00a9.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Leonardo Sandri<\/strong> (Vatican), pr\u00c3\u00a9fet de la Congr\u00c3\u00a9gation pour les \u00c3\u2030glises orientales. &#8211; Il a parl\u00c3\u00a9 de la m\u00c3\u00a9thode de travail en petits groupes. Il a demand\u00c3\u00a9 \u00c3\u00a0 ce sujet, sur quels textes nous devons nous baser.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. Lorenzo Baldisseri<\/strong> &#8211; Tous les commentaires pr\u00c3\u00a9c\u00c3\u00a9dents envoy\u00c3\u00a9s au secr\u00c3\u00a9tariat du Synode ont \u00c3\u00a9t\u00c3\u00a9 inclus dans l\u2019<em>Instrumentum laboris<\/em>. On y ajourera les fruits des discussions des P\u00c3\u00a8res synodaux sur les trois parties de l\u2019<em>Instrumentum Laboris<\/em> <em>2015<\/em>.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Paul Andr\u00c3\u00a9 Durocher<\/strong> (Canada), pr\u00c3\u00a9sident de la Conf\u00c3\u00a9rence \u00c3\u00a9piscopale du Canada. &#8211; La premi\u00c3\u00a8re partie de l\u2019<em>Instrumentum Laboris 2015<\/em> est purement sociologique. Il faut le compl\u00c3\u00a9ter avec la perspective de la foi.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Mgr Jorge Liberato Urosa Savino<\/strong> (Venezuela). Il faut garder la fid\u00c3\u00a9lit\u00c3\u00a9 \u00c3\u00a0 la v\u00c3\u00a9rit\u00c3\u00a9 sur le mariage et la famille et aussi sur l\u2019Eucharistie. Je remercie le Cardinal Erd\u00f6 pour le beau texte de la <em>Relatio<\/em>.<\/p><p>\u00e2\u2013\u00a0 <strong>Card. George<\/strong> <strong>Pell<\/strong> (Vatican), pr\u00c3\u00a9fet du Secr\u00c3\u00a9tariat \u00c3\u00a9conomique. &#8211; Il convient de commencer tout non \u00c3\u00a0 partir de la sociologie, mais \u00c3\u00a0 partir de la Parole de Dieu. Nous appr\u00c3\u00a9cions la valeur de la libre discussion, cependant, il faut une distinction claire entre <em>modi<\/em> et <em>propositiones<\/em>. Est-ce que la r\u00c3\u00a9partition tripartite actuelle de l\u2019<em>Instrumentum Laboris 2015<\/em> peut \u00c3\u00aatre maintenue\u00a0? Pourquoi la Commission qui a r\u00c3\u00a9dig\u00c3\u00a9 la <em>Relation finale du Synode<\/em> a-t-elle \u00c3\u00a9t\u00c3\u00a9 nomm\u00c3\u00a9e dans cette composition\u00a0?<\/p><\/blockquote><div class=\"post-footer\"><div class=\"post-footer-line post-footer-line-1\"><em><span class=\"post-author vcard\"> Napisa\u0142 Dextimus<\/span> <span class=\"post-timestamp\"> dnia <a class=\"timestamp-link\" title=\"permanent link\" href=\"http:\/\/breviarium.blogspot.com\/2015\/10\/abp-gadecki-posusznie-usuwa-wczesniej.html\" rel=\"bookmark\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2015-10-09T20:18:00+02:00\">9.10.15<\/abbr><\/a> <\/span><\/em><\/div><\/div><div class=\"post-footer-line post-footer-line-1\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"post-footer-line post-footer-line-1\">[Google Translate &#8211; <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a 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